Friday, May 21, 2010

Dental work, leaving baby with grandma and no stored breastmilk?

I am having four extractions on Wednesday and baby will be with my mom for a good part of the day.





I have been trying like mad to pump with the cheapo pump from the hospital, with no avail.





Looks like I am going shopping tomorrow, for a better pump and some formula and bottles.





Money is tight; I don't need a buttload of formula, as this will be an isolated incident (I hope).





Any tips for pumping (and quick?) How much will I need for say, a six hour absence, either formula or breastmilk? If better pump doesn't work, what kind of bottles and nipples?





Baby is 1 month and never had a bottle.





I am going crazy over this.

Dental work, leaving baby with grandma and no stored breastmilk?
I wouldn't bother trying to find a bottle baby will take at this point. Go to a drugstore and get some large syringes, some of the tiny medicine cups (if available), and or some of those medicine spoons that usually look like alligators where the body fills with medicine and the mouth despenses it(does that describe them). Any or all of these can be used to feed a baby that won't take a bottle and they won't cause nipple confusion.





Pump one side while baby feeds on the other. Try doing 2-3 feeds on one side so the other gets engorged (this will make it easier to pump)





*IF* you can't pump (and remember a 1 month old is only going to be taking probably 1-3oz per feed, actually most breastfed babies take less than 3-4 oz per feed when feeding on the breast). I wouldn't necessarily give formula. Baby isn't going to starve to death in 6 hours. Yes 1 month is a little young to consistantly go that long at night BUT we are talking about one time. And babies can and have been sensitized to milk or soy protein from one bottle of formula. One bottle of formula also will change the flora and pH in your babies digestive tract for about 2 weeks.





If at ALL possible have grandma bring the baby with you to the hospital/office. Things are often delayed. Feed baby just before you go in, and as soon as you have enough motor control to hold baby after the surgery/treatment you can feed baby again.





Anesthesia is NOT a reason to discontinue breastfeeding and in almost all cases the reason they tell you to is they don't want to deal with baby around or they figure "better safe than sorry" but that doesn't address the safety of formula or the consequences to moms supply and the breastfeeding relationship.





Breastfeeding when mom has surgery


http://www.kellymom.com/health/illness/m...





Dental Work and Breastfeeding


(x-rays, local anesthesia, sedation and more)


http://www.kellymom.com/health/illness/d...





Conscious Sedation and Breastfeeding:


Recommendations for Patients


http://www.kellymom.com/health/meds/seda...





IF THE HOSPITAL/DENTIST/ANESTHEIOLIGIST WILL NOT BELIEVE YOU AND WILL NOT "ALLOW" YOU TO BREASTFEED: (well firstly they can't really stop you, what are they going to do post a nurse at your door and tell you that baby isn't allowed in the room).





Have them call motherisk and motherisk will explain it to them:


(416) 813-6780 mon-fri 9-5
Reply:its probally cause your worring to much to pump your breast!!! i know the doctors told me if im trying to hard or not in breast feeding "mind" it wont work!!! try being in a really warm room and watch your baby or look at pictures!!!


but if nothing works its ok to give a little formula sometimes!!
Reply:If you want a decent pump... get the avent manual... 40 bucks or so.





Just pump after your baby nurses. Do it around the clock. I like the avent bottles, because it's a wide nipple, which mimics the breast.





If you plan on leaving the baby for about 6 hours, i would have about 16 ounces on hand... (all depends on how much your baby usually eats. But pump after every feed, and even thru the night.





Best of luck to you!
Reply:Avent bottle works great that kind bottle of my youngest would take. I breastfeed him. Or playtex kind that support breastfeeding. If you going to give the baby one time of formula get soy kind that want the hospital give to my mom since I had to have a emergancy surgery when he was about two months old and I couldn't breastfeed. Would need to pump 4 oz for the every feeding that you be gone..
Reply:Oh Boy!! I would go and get a good pump before I went out and bought formula and a bunch of bottles, the baby may not take htem and then you wasted oyur money, try the good pump first, to see how much you get (at least 2-8oz bottles) then if you think it wont be enougth go for the formula! Good luck
Reply:since your baby has never had a bottle before i would def go and buy 1 dr brown bottle. its speciallly made so the baby doesnt get any air (which can cause problems) and since your baby has never had a bottle before he/she may be really sensitive to the extra air the most bottle leave behind. Stage 1 nipples are the right ones for the age. But dr brown bottle are a little expensive but def. worth it. My son had lots of problems with normal bottles because of the air and since i started him on Dr. Brown's he's fabulous!!
Reply:at almost 2 months old, my baby started drinking out of the bottle but she would only use playtex drop in bottles because the nipples are more like the breast nipple. make sure you buy the nipples that are SLOW, not fast for her age. i highly doubt she'll drink more than 4 ounces every 2 to 3 hours. just take a can of formula over there and take back home whatever she doesnt use. my daughte loves good start (the purple can). if u cant get any milk for her, DO NOT leave her! she'll need food you can reschedule. shes more important and doesnt need to be hungry for 6 hours.
Reply:Pump one breast WHILE you are nursing on the other. You should be able to get a LOT more out.





See if you can't rent a pump...





Grandma can feed baby via a spoon, a cup, a dropper...check kellymom.com; there are plenty of ways to feed babies besides bottles.





(Is the dental work urgent? With a newborn, I would've postponed it if it was possible to do so.)
Reply:I didn't breast feed my kids but I did give them enfamil formula which you can also purchase a box of pre-measured that all you have 2 do is pour into the bottle I hope this helps a little.
Reply:If your baby is 1 month, she might need 1 or 2 feedings in the 6 hrs you will be apart. If the bottle isn't working, have your mom try a sippy cup, regular cup, or small washcloth dipped in breastmilk to suck on. But also consider, if she doesn't take the bottle from your mom, she will be OK for that short amount of time. Probably cranky %26amp; VERY ready to nurse when you get back, but OK.





To pump more quickly, try drinking LOTS of water and drinking Fenugreek tea.
Reply:I know it's easy to say, but try to be calm and relaxed as this will help your milk production. My daughter used nuk teats after having difficulty with other teats as a newborn. If I were starting with another baby, I would use nuk as they are good for babies who experience difficulties with other teats and are also good for preventing colic.


I wouldn't recommend the very cheapest bottles as they can leak and be awkward to assemble, but I l love the cheapest Tommee Tippee bottles. For formula, my daughter has always used Karicare Gold Plus. It isn't cheap, but I want her to have the best possible nutrients (I wanted to breastfeed, but was unable to).


I hope you recover quickly!
Reply:For bottles, get the platex nurser with the disposable liners, or Sassy Mam ultivent bottles. Both are wide, and nipple like. Avent, dr browns and a few others contain the chemical BPA in the plastic which can cause harm to infants. I used them not knowing the first 6 weeks.
Reply:I just wanted to say: Do not let anyone make you feel bad if you have to do what you have to do. Yes! Dental work can be severely urgent! My guess is you have an abscessed tooth and it could kill you. People, you need to think before you judge! I had a severely herniated disk (after bad fall) and was in the hospital unconscious for 2 days and unable to walk for 3. I was so drugged, I do not remember most of it. My daughter had to go back to formula during that time and she is now still on it because I spent two weeks on my tummy in hospital (only way to get comfy) and in severe pain or drugged. People tried to make me feel bad instead of being happy I did not die from the fall I had! Sad world! Good luck and take care of yourself!
Reply:Is it at all possible to bring baby with you? I was put out and had teeth extracted with bfing a 1 week old baby and had no problems at all. Had grandma watch baby while I was undergoing surgery. Dr. says very tiny amounts of anesthesia pass through breastmilk, not enough to harm the baby. Problem solved! Just nurse right before your appointment, and baby should be fine for a few hours...long enough for your procedure and meds to wear off a bit.
Reply:Ok, first of all relax...


It'll only be 6 hours!!





Quick question...does baby take a soother yet? Because if yes, chances on bottle are acceptance are great... If not, oh well.





Another option...check with local drug stores/pharmacies to see if they rent pumps. (I know majority do here in Canada and they're the good ones!)





Usually an electric pump is better than a manual one ( I bought a Medala mini electric for a reasonable amount of $$)





If you can't get enough milk this way, then just grab 1 can of ready to serve formula from your grocery store. (1 day of it is not going to hurt baby...I used Good Start for one day until my milk came in)





Bottles all depend on baby...usually the best bet is a Playtex bottle as their nipples best resemble the breast. (you can buy these in singles too, and they come with a few liners) If baby already takes a soother then your chances are good about a bottle and possibly just a regular bottle/nipple would probably work.


here, found link for you on bottle that I find works best for my 2.5 month old in a pinch.





http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp...
Reply:I am an expert when it comes to the breastpump thing. I pumped exclusively for a year. Anyway, it's worth it to spend the money on a Medela Pumpinstyle! You are waisting your time when dealing with a not so good electric pump. They have the Medela PIS at Target, or rent one from the hospital. The Medela pumps that you rent are really good. I would feed with one breast and pump the other. Also, the Medela feeding kit that comes with the bottles and storage tops is awesome (Target). The bottles are also BPA chemical free! Great bottles for babies that are breastfeed.


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